- Eva Vögtli: The Cabaret Voltaire was founded in 1916 by young artists and writers and was thus the birthplace of Dada. The Dadaists were between 20 and 30 years old, similar to the six students in “The Red Herring”. Sophie Taeuber-Arp, the well-known painter and pioneer not only of Dada but also of abstraction, taught at the former Gewerbeschule, now the ZHdK. Were such parallels decisive in bringing about the collaboration with the ZHdK Master Fine Arts programme?
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Salome Hohl: Yes, on the one hand there is the historical aspect. Young artists and students were and are important to Cabaret Voltaire. But it has also always been a place of coming together and diversity. It was a place for trying out things, experimenting – and ultimately Dada established itself here. I think it’s important today to show both internationally renowned artists such as Monster Chetwynd and the work of students, as in this collaboration.
- How did you approach the project, and what were the requirements?
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For students, the step from “off-space” and personal initiative to an institutional exhibition is a big one. When selecting the participants, in collaboration with those responsible for the Master Fine Arts programme, I placed great importance on motivation and an awareness that participation in this project also comes with a responsibility towards the history of the house. The Cabaret Voltaire is better known internationally than in Switzerland. Dada is taught in school textbooks worldwide. During a seminar week, the students received input on the history of the house and on the topic of “Artists’ Bars” – an important format in the arts, even outside of Dada. Together, we considered what an Artists’ Bar might look like today and how we would like to design such a bar together. But it was also a question of mixing practices and interests – the idea of achieving a good balance among the students.
- The students bring their own interests, practices and approaches to the table. How did you manage to find a common theme?
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It came as a surprise to me, but it actually makes sense: during the preparatory week, we couldn’t agree on a common theme. The Master’s students all already have a strong practice of their own and their own ideas about how they want to develop it and position themselves. At the same time, as young artists, they are still at the beginning of their careers – a sensitive moment when you don’t want to be too “framed”. I think there is also a social and very real pressure, because professionalisation in art has increased – perhaps at the expense of experimentation. So I was also confronted with my own naivety.